PIC: Holly Pivec book. Counterfeit-Kingdom NAR-types
I am writing this to you, an apostate Christian. I am concerned for you. You are part of a Counterfeit Kingdom.
And I am writing to apostates without the “Christian” label. And also… to you who are not even aware of a “falling away” in these End Times.
You may even be attending a church that is apostate — and not know it! For this post: Let’s assume you are apostate. Do you want to know more about this biblical predicament you are in? This is for you:
- What makes a believer in Jesus “apostate“?
- Why are apostate beliefs so damning?
- Let’s count the ways.
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What makes you “apostate”…an NAR-type believer, a Mormon, a Buddist…
A large percentage of apostates are you NAR-type believers out there, pagan wandering stars. You are one of the many who refuse to admit your sin:
You cannot be saved as-is,
because
you practice what God is against.
Know your terms. Truth – Apostate – Antithetical – Heritical. Read about the many tell-tale signs by Dr. Roger Barrier from Casas Church in Tucson, Arizona, here: What Is a Cult? The 6 Telltale Signs to Look For. 1
Why are apostate beliefs so damning? Let’s count the ways.
Apparently most of you NAR-types don’t realize what it is that you are into. You have the “Christian label” but you are not really Christian. Other apostates have no “Christian” label, and they don’t know they are called “apostates” in Scripture either, like: Mormons, Jehova Witnesses, Buddists, and most Catholics (I say “most Catholics are apostate” because Catholicism errs in so many ways that “getting saved” is not a priority, and many miss personally accepting God’s forgiveness.)
Why so damning?…they do not follow and obey
Apostate beliefs are so damn damning because they do not follow and obey what Jesus taught. And they do not follow and obey what His disciples taught. It somehow escaped their notice that – the Way to salvation always involves obedience to Jesus.
What escapes your notice?
Maybe you had a “cracked heart” back then… and God did not accept your confession? Maybe you actually had an unrepentant heart?
What are your religious practices?
What have you been practicing in your Charismatic religion? Are you adding your NAR-type Charismatic practices to God’s Sin List?
* Making-up your own thinking (See: They in fact have seen nothing) and calling it a revelation from God…?
* Claiming “I have a word from God and calling it “God’s Word”…?
* Making God speak your own words…?
* Twisting Scripture – changing God’s Word so you can deny the Old Testament…?
* Gyrating wildly “in the Spirit” like a Kundalini Hindu Spirit does for the Hindus…? Is the Holy Spirit helping you copy the Hindu Kundalini? I think not.
Dang! And you do it as a matter of practice, not willing to repent and call it sin? That is every bit as damning as the sins on God’s Sin List 1 Timothy 1:6-11. You are effectively running with sin and calling it “just fine with me”. I think God has added your disobedient Charismatic practices to His Sin List. 2
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For this post we are assuming you are apostate. So: Scripture considers you to be a counterfeit Christian. Still not saved yet, you are into a counterfeit faith that replicates the true Gospel of Jesus, but isn’t it. Like a counterfeit USA dollar, your brand of Christianity is worthless.
Your $1 dollar faith is not worth $1. “Looks like, feels like, buys like“… but it’s counterfeit. What everlasting good is that!? Nobody ever wanted a counterfeit dollar! God doesn’t need one.
Entrance into the Eternal
The GateKeeper of the Pearly Gates will not give you entrance into Eternity with God. Entrance is not granted to apostates! Entrance is denied to deniers of the true, real Gospel.
Without realizing it, what you have, what the apostate has is – a diluted Jesus’ teaching. It’s not what it seems. It trapped you. Hook line and sinker…you swallowed the lie.
You (1) can live the way you want –
or (2) you can give your life to the gatekeeper of Heaven — Jesus.
– Source: What you think and practice as compared with what Jesus thinks
When it comes to the Gospel, the apostate teachers have added-to-it Mark 7:8, making it something else. So, what you have with the apostate’s faith in Christ is bogus, like the Catholic’s limited truth. False messages from God, and “tradition of men”…are useless when it comes to getting saved.
You disregard
and neglect
the commandment of God,
and cling [faithfully] to
the tradition of men.”
– Mark 7:8
See: Confirm & Affirm why Jesus will accept me
PIC: Something Rotting The Fruit. BereanResearch.org
Jeremiah spoke out about apostate faith:
8 “Behold, you are trusting in deceptive and useless words that bring no benefit… and [then dare to] come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My [a]Name, and say, ‘We are protected and set free [by this act of religious ritual]!’—only to go on with this wickedness and these disgusting and loathsome things?”
– Jeremiah 7:8-10
a counterfeit faith…
replicates the true Gospel of Jesus,
but isn’t it
What you have? Isn’t it! Read it and weep. NAR-type Charismatics follow false prophets. They follow false apostles. They follow false teachers.
What these have given you is false faith, false hope, false confidence…. It’s all false – not of God.
The Bible says these apostate leaders give you “deceptive and useless words that bring no benefit” Jeremiah 7:8-10 and actually lead you away from salvation. You are far from ‘…protected and set free [by this act of religious ritual]!’ Jeremiah 7:8-10 – whatever it is your church leaders lead you into praticing. As if your mindset is protected by God!
Scripture says you are “not of us“. “You are not of God”, Jesus said.
Still not saved yet,
you are into
a counterfeit faith
that replicates
the true Gospel of Jesus,
but isn’t it.
How horrifying is that?! The most horrifying. There is no horror bigger than that.
FOR MORE:
For this post we are assuming you are apostate. So: Scripture considers you to be a counterfeit Christian. Still not saved yet, you are into a counterfeit faith that replicates the true Gospel of Jesus, but isn’t it. Like a counterfeit USA dollar, your brand of Christianity is worthless.
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Accepting all that Jesus Christ is and does… personally accepting God’s forgiveness
What Jesus gives to Sinners like me and you…Jesus can save you too
Jesus Saved Me…Jesus can save you too
Salvation. True version – False version…only one way is the true Gospel of Jesus Excerpt:
Jesus taught the true version of salvation. I got my version from God Himself! Where on earth are you getting yours?
Here’s a list of OMGj articles to consider reading. Is yours the true version, or one of the many false versions? Actually, the odds are: you have a false version and are on a lost, wrong road. Scary thought.
I want poppy fields forever! How about you? There will be no poppyfields in Hell, damned by God. Don’t get damned. Get right!
The True Version…the true, real Gospel
Salvation in Christ is beyond HUGE!…the true version of salvation
It really is Eternity at stake here
Choose to change Eternity…God has divided Eternity
Getting saved is fast. Be saved in one minute.
What knowing the Bible does for you
Counterfeit Spirit of God Excerpt: Counterfeit Christianity is growing. Do you know the Bible well enough to spot a counterfeit church? Are you into one – yourself?
The Bible warns of “seducing spirits” within the church “in later times“. It warns about those church leaders who teach and delve into non-biblical practices. Beware of fake charismatic churches and pastors who follow a counterfeit spirit of god – those who teach extra-biblical experiences….
Many false teachings are basing their beliefs and doctrines on experience – allowing experiences to trump the Word of God. Experience-based religion is not true Christian faith. They negate what God has already told us in the Bible. True Christianity bases everything on the Bible, not on experiences.
What Scripture supports and defends and we should also
Warnings by Paul to Timothy about “falling away”…becoming apostate in these End Times.
See all in one link or: 1 Timothy 4:1, 1 Timothy 6:3-5, 2 Timothy 4:3, 2 Corinthians 11:3-6, 2 Corinthians 13:5, Jeremiah 7:8-10, Matthew 3:7; Luke 11:39-54, Rev 2:2.
Get your 2:2 on!…Rev 2:2
Can you really see what is going on in the world?
the practicing of gifts
unbiblically
Post New Apostolic Reformation Reflections…are you part of a Counterfeit Kingdom?
NAR words are not God’s Words…they imagine words and say they are God’s words…and their weird teachings are not from God either. They are failing all over the place. That is why I am rejecting prophecying and special words of knowledge, their whole scheme.
Christian Idolatry? Evaluating Bethel Church and Bill Johnson | Anne Kennedy | updated Jan 27, 2026 | …coming from apostates
I biblically tut these apostate imposters
I am…
About rejecting prophecying and special words of knowledge Excerpt: Where are these “prophets” and “prophecies” coming from? …Basically 99% of it is coming from apostates: apostate churches like Bethel in Redding CA, apostate believers sitting in pews all over the world, and false prophets, false apostles and false teachers. They are in the NAR-type Charismatic movement.
The “form of evil” v22 is the practicing of gifts unbiblically. Practicing what God has forbidden? That is evil. Since Old Testament times – that is evil. And it is still not OK by God. “I am against you”, God says 3
Original image at FITL, “What does the Gospel promise us?”
NARers profess false doctrines such as the following:
- NARers make generic prophecies (not specific actual Words from God), so they cannot be proven mistaken later (!)
- NARer miracles are never proven (like Peter’s healing where the lame man went “walking and leaping and praising God” in Acts 3:8),
- NARer new “revelations” contradict Scripture,
- NARers get messages from dead people (!),
- NARers “shift atmospheres” (!),
- NARers promise to “bring Heaven to Earth” (so, are things getting better now?),
- NARers exhibit “bizarre manifestations”,
- NARers claim the ability “to think like God”,
- NARers take trips to Heaven,
- NARers talk to angels,
- NARers experience angels visit them (like the angel called Moroni did with Joseph Smith multiple times starting in 1823. Purportedly “guiding him to the golden plates that were later translated into the Book of Mormon.” source),
- NARers seek guidance through “Destiny Readings”,
- NARers seek after the mantles of their dead heroes and ask for “double portions”,
- NARers believe in miraculous “increase and breakthrough”,
- NARers believe in “Dominion theology”,
- NARers believe God owes them health, wealth and success,
- NARers believe they have ability to perform miracles,
- NARers believe in omens,
- NARers believe God always wants to heal us,
- NARers claim they can “name it and claim it” – they can speak into existence their imaginings, make reality.
God’s Sin List God’s list of sins:
OLD TESTAMENT… Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments Bible search belong first on this list, of course. See them here: Exodus 20.
NEW TESTAMENT…listing sins
These are New Testament references (and Proverbs) listing sins. See all in one link, or: 2 Corinthians 12:20, 1 Timothy 5:13, Romans 1:29, Romans 1:24-25, Matthew 15:19, 1 Peter 2:1, Proverbs 16:28, Ephesians 4:31, 2 Peter 2, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, 1 Timothy 1:6-11, Romans 1:18-19, Matthew 7:21-23, Ephesians 4:17-19, Ephesians 4: verses 17-32
Are you adding your Charismatic practices to God’s Sin List? Making-up your own thinking (See: They in fact have seen nothing) and calling it a revelation from God, claiming “I have a word from God and calling it “God’s Word”, making God speak your own words, misrepresenting God, twisting Scripture – changing God’s Word so you can deny the Old Testament…?
Dang! And you do it as a matter of practice, not willing to repent and call it sin?
They were not really of us Excerpt: 1 John 2:18-19 explains why so many are so critical of true believers:
“19 They went out from us
[seeming at first to be Christians],
but they were not really of us
[because they
were not truly born again
and spiritually transformed]”
See these 4 passages in one link or: 1 John 2:18-19, 1 Timothy 4:1; 1 Timothy 6:3-5; 1 Timothy 1:3-7.
“they were not really of us”
– 1 John 2:18-19
45 But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me
John 8:45-47
How horrifying
is that?!
Deviating from Scripture. How they do it, these Bethel Prophets and Pastors
“You are not of God”, Jesus said…It’s all false. This is applicable to NAR-types.
Why might many Charismatics not be saved…Why the NAR-types are “God-damned believers“
What you think and practice as compared with what Jesus thinks Excerpt:
So, what do you think? Are you conforming to the world (as in Romans 12:2), or conforming your worldview to Jesus’ worldview? It makes a Hell of a difference.
Are you “world conformed” or are you “Jesus conformed”? Your worldview divides eternity for you, as it lands you either on Jesus’ side of eternity, or …that other place.
About False Teachings of Today
As Teachers of the Faith – Unqualified and Worthless…these apostate leaders
Deviating from Scripture. How they do it, these Bethel Prophets and Pastors
You don’t have to be weird to be an apostate
The Bethel Johnson’s Unbiblical Teachings
How to biblically refute dunderheads
“Remove the evil from among you”
Not saved yet Excerpt: Stay far from what is not pure water
* Beware of false teachers who promise water, but are “clouds without water” Jude 1:12
* Beware of mere religions that imprison you in man-made philosophies
* Beware of betting your eternity on your own thinking, clinging to your faith about God, rejecting Jesus’ teachings. After all – who do you think you are, anyway?
* Beware of your hatred. Hating is life changing – eternal life changing. Scary thought.
There comes a time to stand for Jesus, or deny Jesus. Has your “faith” led you astray to where you are actually denying Jesus? Dangerous place to be at.
You cannot be saved as-is,
because
you practice what God is against.
Useless faith is exactly that – useless
The logic of “If this – then that” to explain useless faith
Spontaneous illogicality and double speak
Refuse to admit your sin…you practice what God is against:
Mormon Polygamy and God | *See other articles by
Why might many Charismatics not be saved…the NAR-type “God-damned believers“
Flesh and blood absolutely cannot inherit the Kingdom of God
We don’t get to Heaven by being sinful
Keeping sin AND getting God’s Holiness also
False prophets
are on
an opposite spectrum
from God.
They follow
their own strange teaching.
– Source: Do you have God?
The Jesus of Charismatics – Jeremiah 7:10
Speaking with love about what is truth and what is false
Following the Jesus who was not God
Needing something more than Jesus
What Is a Cult? The 6 Telltale Signs to Look For | by Dr. Roger Barrier | from Casas Church in Tucson, Arizona
Changing what God started Excerpt: What are the ramifications of changing something? It’s like:
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- If I start out with 100% cows milk, and then add chocolate to it, I then no longer have 100% milk! Simple, right? I have a totally different drink, which we call by a different name: chocolate milk. It is not milk any more! It is chocolate milk.
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- If I start out with 100% Hydrogen, and then add oxygen and more Hydrogen, then I no longer have 100% Hydrogen – do I? I have a totally different element. I have changed the equation. I have left plain hydrogen, and now have “another element”, which we know as H2O. It is now called “Water”… something totally distinct from plain old Hydrogen.
- If I start out with 100% Hydrogen, and then add oxygen and more Hydrogen, then I no longer have 100% Hydrogen – do I? I have a totally different element. I have changed the equation. I have left plain hydrogen, and now have “another element”, which we know as H2O. It is now called “Water”… something totally distinct from plain old Hydrogen.
Different make-up. Different element.
False teachers like NAR type leaders continue to use the name “Christian” even though they have become “a different element”. They do this because they are deceivers.
8 “Behold, you are trusting in deceptive and useless words that bring no benefit… and [then dare to] come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My [a]Name, and say, ‘We are protected and set free [by this act of religious ritual]!’—only to go on with this wickedness and these disgusting and loathsome things?” – Jeremiah 7:8-10
A God Damn Excerpt: The Santa Claus god
However, many today want a belly laughing “ho ho ho”, roly-poly Santa Claus god. This modern day god:
has no predilections, no predispositions, and never gets upset with anything we do or ask for. This god goes with the flow. This god of ours accepts it all, whatever we want. He has no bias, no prejudice against anything. He has no fixed, predetermined intolerances. What you are, whatever – he’s down with that! This “Claus God” has been created for our convenience.
We fool ourselves so easily. Anything we kind of like, or really like, or really really are into… is fine with our “Claus God”. It’s easy to follow this “god”. Claus has no limits on us!
The Great Water Down of Jesus’ Message to us all…a bunch of watered-down-whatever teachings
As if your mindset is protected by God
Why might many Charismatics not be saved
God is able to keep you from stumbling
References for God’s Condemnation
“I am against you”
See in one link or:
Deuteronomy 6:15, Deuteronomy 31:27, Matthew 22:29, Ezekiel 13:8, Ezekiel 13:9, Ezekiel 13:20, Ezekiel 14:9-11.
It’s easy to follow this “god”.
Claus has no limits on us!
– Source: A God Damn
Do you have God? Excerpt: The Opposite Spectrum
God communicated His Message, not a bunch of watered-down-whatever teachings. False prophets are on an opposite spectrum from God. They follow their own strange teaching.
This spectrum is condemned by God. Those who are fooling around in that realm are literally damned by God Almighty for their rebellious audacity. Their practices and teachings are created by personal interpretations (misInterpretations) which change what God intended.
The meaning of 2 John 1:9 in the vernacular:
“You gotta get it right, or you don’t got Jesus!”
The ultra extreme unresolvable horror upon arrival for Gods condemnation
Footnotes
- Summary: (Copied from the crosswalk.com site)
First, the most dastardly, insidious mark of a cult is that it ignores or distorts the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Second, most cults are led by a dynamic, charismatic leader who eventually controls and manipulates his or her followers.
Third, surprisingly, most cult leaders grew up in a Christian environment.
Fourth, cult leaders tend to ignore, confuse, add to, and/or demean the Bible’s teachings.
Fifth, cults use devious methods to trap, deceive, and control their followers.
Sixth, people join cults for a number of reasons: 2 Timothy 4:3-4, Ephesians 4:14.
How to Avoid being Seduced by Cult Leaders and Teachings
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(Copied from Crosswalk.com site) Best Resources for this article may be found at: PreachItTeachIt.org; Bible Gateway.com; Got Questions.com; Wikipedia.com; the helpful teaching of Robert L. (Bob) Deffinbaugh pastor/teacher and elder at Community Bible Chapel in Richardson, Texas; and Steve Dowdle, retired counselor from Casas Church, Tucson Arizona.
Dr. Roger Barrier retired as senior teaching pastor from Casas Church in Tucson, Arizona. In addition to being an author and sought-after conference speaker, Roger has mentored or taught thousands of pastors, missionaries, and Christian leaders worldwide. Casas Church, where Roger served throughout his thirty-five-year career, is a megachurch known for a well-integrated, multi-generational ministry. The value of including new generations is deeply ingrained throughout Casas to help the church move strongly right through the twenty-first century and beyond.
Dr. Barrier holds degrees from Baylor University, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Golden Gate Seminary in Greek, religion, theology, and pastoral care.
His popular book, Listening to the Voice of God, published by Bethany House, is in its second printing and is available in Thai and Portuguese. His latest work is, Got Guts? Get Godly! Pray the Prayer God Guarantees to Answer, from Xulon Press. Roger can be found blogging at Preach It, Teach It, the pastoral teaching site founded with his wife, Dr. Julie Barrier.
- God’s list of sins:
OLD TESTAMENT… Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments Bible search belong first on this list, of course. See them here: Exodus 20.NEW TESTAMENT…listing sins
These are New Testament references (and Proverbs) listing sins. See all in one link, or: 2 Corinthians 12:20, 1 Timothy 5:13, Romans 1:29, Romans 1:24-25, Matthew 15:19, 1 Peter 2:1, Proverbs 16:28, Ephesians 4:31, 2 Peter 2, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, 1 Timothy 1:6-11, Romans 1:18-19, Matthew 7:21-23, Ephesians 4:17-19, Ephesians 4: verses 17-32. - What we believe and practice
It behooves us to closely watch what we begin to believe as Christians. All our ‘pinionating, social media posts, and arguing may lead us away from the faith. It can happen to you. Millions have been bambozzled already.As reported January 22, 2026
US Senate hopeful James Talarico said, All religions have ‘same truth’ as Christianity | By Ian M. Giatti | Christian Post Reporter | Thursday, January 22, 2026 | ‘The Bible is all over the place’ on marriage and gender, Senate hopeful tells NYT.”After claiming to have learned more about Christianity “by learning more about Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and Judaism,” Talarico said he views “these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos. And that truth is inherently a mystery.”
Well there you have it. This is what most people believe. Not surprising at all to me: James Talarico is a Presbyterian seminarian and claims all religions contain the ‘same truth’ as Christianity. Talarico is running Democrat – The New Left.
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